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Marshall Superbass - Best WGS speaker combination?

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Leif Johan Flornes
08/08/2019 2:31am

Greetings from Norway!

I play a 69' Marshall Superbass 100 watt, which i use together with a stock 1960AX cab with the G12M 25 watt speakers. I use an Ultimate Attenuator to keep the volume down to survivable levels.

I want to change the speakers because I feel that they are underpowered and that they get to bassy and muddy when I kick in my vintage fuzz pedals.

Been reading up on WGS speakers here on the forum and elsewhere and I hear alot of good stuff about your products.
What speakers would you recommend for my amp?
I play rock, blues and pop styles and use overdrive, fuzz and octave pedals.

Thanks.

Narcoleptigon_47048
08/20/2019 1:59am

First, you'll need higher Wattage speakers with a 100W amp and a 4x12” cab. The Marshall SB tone stack has less midrange than the Lead model, so speakers with more midrange might be useful. Offhand, the Retro 30 might be a good bet -- full midrange and tight bass. Pretty bright and chimey, but not harsh. Maybe mix those with the old school Reaper HP or more modern (cloth dust cap damped) ET90.

P.S. Maybe you could save some weight using 30W rated speakers, but choices are limited. Also, the Reaper 30 is a tad less deep and bass strong than the HP, but is a tad more "aggressive". Either model should work fine, but my guess is speakers with stronger magnets might damp the response of weaker magnet speakers in a closed-cab. Maybe not.

I am also of the belief that speakers with wide cloth dust covers and/or less-resonant cones are less likely to create mutual cancellations with more resonant cone speakers. Others have mixed Reapers and ET65's with excellent results. That might be the safest bet if you think the ET90 might be t0o bright. It depends partially how you like the Presence knob set. I'd surely go for the ET65 if you like it up ~1/2 way or more. Setting the Middle up very high and Treble down low is actually closer to a flat response on a Marshall tone stack. I encourage players to download the TSC app to better understand how different tone stacks actually work: http://www.duncanamps.com/tsc/index.html

VAUGHN SKOW
08/31/2019 11:14pm

"they get to bassy and muddy when I kick in my vintage fuzz pedals."
So ... this is kinda the little tone-key in your email! And yes, tired greenies will CERTAINLY sound like that!
If you WANT to stay in the original Greenback tone land, yet avoid the mudd, go with a quad of 50-watt Invaders.
If you want to make it solid as a rock, go with 4 Brit Leads.
If you want to make it a super-versatile cab that has lots of EVERYTHING but still avoids the mudd, go with a pair of Ret 30's and a Pair Of ET90's ... one of WGS customer's favorite combos.

Narcoleptigon_47048
09/01/2019 8:53pm

I'm glad to hear Vaughn recommending the Ret 30 for a Marshall. The tight bass of it and the ET90 should be helpful with your Fuzz pedal issue. Although it and the ET90 apparently both have more ~4k+ "Presence" than the ET65 or Invader 50, they shouldn't actually be more fatiguing because 4kHz is significantly above the 3~3.5kHz critical hearing range on the F-M Loudness curve. Again, it depends how you set the Presence and Treble knobs on the amp. Not to argue Vaughn's picks -- just something to consider b4 choosing.