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The Early Marshall ValveState VS-100 Sleeper Amps - With a Speaker Upgrade

The Early Marshall ValveState VS-100 Sleeper Amps - With a Speaker Upgrade

Okay, before I jump into why I truly believe the early Marshall Valvestate VS100 is indeed a terribly overlooked "sleeper amp", I need to tell you how I discovered these amps.  A couple weeks back two Marshall amps arrived in my shop for repair, one was a DSL 40 full tube amp and the other was a early 90's VS100.  In a nutshell, the (much more expensive) DSL really disappointed me, while the VS was way cooler than expected.  Rather than get too wordy, I'll use bullet-points, and I will NOT get into techno-babble (your welcome).

  • The Valvestate had a MUCH better looking circuit board, more robust, better lay-out, and easier to work on.
  • The Valvestate had way more authoritative and solid bottom-end.
  • The Valvestate was much more versatile, delivering better Fender type cleans, as well as better scooped metal tones.
  • The VS had separate verb controls for clean and dirty channels, yes!  Why don't all amps have this?  Brilliant.
  • The VS was actually made in ENGLAND, the way a Marshall should be!!!
  • The VS sported a UK made Celestion speaker.
  • The VS had WAY more clean headroom.
  • The VS also could deliver way better totally saturated tones at bedroom volume.
  • The VS "Power Dimension" switch really re-voices the amp, again making it excellent for lower volume levels.
Marshall VS-100 Valvestate speaker replacement

I set up an A/B switch to switch between the tow amps, and found the VS better at every tone over the DSL.  Wow.  So next I A/B'd it to my favorite dual-channel combo, a Fender Super-Sonic 22 ... and here, while there was more of a pronounced difference between the two amps ... and the Super-Sonic is VERY sweet ... I still found I liked the cleans, crunch, and saturated tones of the VS just as well as the stupidly cool and well respected Super-Sonic.  Again, wow.

So, what DIDN'T I like about the VS-100?  Really only three things:

  1. I wish the short spring reverb tank was a long-spring Fender type.
  2. I wish it had a headphone out for totally silent practice, an easy addition for a Solid State power section.
  3. The factory Celestion "blackback" 12" speaker (UK made!) was not bad, but it was a bit thin and lacked a little Marshall midrange growl.

Let's address these three points.

  1. If I really wanted to, I could install a longer reverb tank for about twenty bucks from someplace like Allparts.  But I'll probably use a verb pedal.
  2. If I really wanted it, I could add a headphone jack for a few bucks in parts, but I'd probably never use it anyway.
  3. I can install a WGS Invader 12" Speaker to give the amp the characteristic greenback mid growl I'd like to have a bit more of.  Yes, the Invader is rated at 50-watts, but the Valvestate's 100 mosfet solid state watts are equal to about 50 old-fashioned tube driven watts RMS.

The speaker is so easy to upgrade that yes, I'd probably suggest to folks that they do the swap.  And yes, the Invader would be my #1 suggestion.  Another fantastic speaker upgrade would be the British Lead, which would add in a little more urgent midrange, plus even MORE solid bottom end.

Stay tuned, another great sleeper amp is up next!



Wm Anderson
02/28/2019 3:26pm

Every time I read your blog I wind up window shopping!!!

Anyway, maybe some VS100s did have the headphone jack and some didn't. This one does:
https://reverb.com/item/5378113-marshall-valvestate-vs-100-combo-guitar-amp

It's a shame you'd have to go to North Hollywood, CA to pick it up...

Jeremy Bowlin
03/25/2019 6:04pm

It's finally nice to hear that someone has respect for these old valvestate Marshall's. I've still got and use a VS102R. It's the 2x12 model and it is LOUD. I've always liked the tones I get out of it, minus that bitey treble from the stock speakers. So, my question is, do I go with a pair of Invaders or a mixed pair with the Invader and one of the other British line? Such a hard decision. I play mostly single coil pup's and want more of that classic Marshall sound.

VAUGHN SKOW
03/30/2019 8:21pm

"I play mostly single coil pup's and want more of that classic Marshall sound."
Man ... yea, a pair of Invaders sounds like it. One other good option for you would be an Invader and A Reaper HP ... for just a tad more bottom and top.

newyorkmetal77_51288
04/09/2019 11:13am

Good read! I think Marshall fixed a lot of the discrepancies (not all though) with the 2018 line of DSL's. Anyway, I know the VS100 isn't the same exact model he used (8100 head and VS 4X12), but I have just 2 words: Chuck Schuldiner. Enough said! Thanks for the article!

VAUGHN SKOW
04/23/2019 12:05am

Yep, the 8100 was really just the next version of the VS100 ...

jnl2711_52071
10/12/2019 4:34am

Well it depends on who you ask because most people say the vs8100 sounds exactly the same as the vs100 then others say that the vs8100 sounds better and it's because the overdrive circuit is slightly different than the vs100. However it is true that they are (sort of) the same amp.

jnl2711_52071
10/12/2019 4:34am

Well it depends on who you ask because most people say the vs8100 sounds exactly the same as the vs100 then others say that the vs8100 sounds better and it's because the overdrive circuit is slightly different than the vs100. However it is true that they are (sort of) the same amp.

jnl2711_52071
10/12/2019 4:41am

A bullet point you forgot to add is that the amp (VS100) is a 'hybrid' tube amp meaning it has only one tube in the preamp section and zero tubes in the power amp section. You also mentioned factory Celestion "blackback" speaker? Mine has a goldback however did they sometimes come with blackback? Also never heard of these amps not having a "headphones" out jack. Are you referring to the VS100 combo or just the head? I only have ever owned combo amps but understanding the purpose of heads and cabinets I'd bet headphone jacks are a lot more rare on amp heads.

gutozm_52249
11/10/2019 3:46pm

OD , Wha, Delay pedals are better in the loop??